Comments for Integral Liberties http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com ...a lonely impulse of delight Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:36:21 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Relating to Aurobindo: An Essay once called Killing the Beast by Darrell Moneyhon http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-77 Darrell Moneyhon Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:36:21 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-77 editing note to above comment: ..."soon to be less and less" human, that is. That is what I meant, not less and less consciousness-clouding lactic acid. Darrell editing note to above comment: …”soon to be less and less” human, that is. That is what I meant, not less and less consciousness-clouding lactic acid.
Darrell

]]> Comment on Relating to Aurobindo: An Essay once called Killing the Beast by Darrell Moneyhon http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-76 Darrell Moneyhon Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:32:37 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-76 Dear Steven, I enjoyed the piece. Excellent writing. I worked in prison for the last 13 or 14 years of my state employment (now retired), and worked 15 or 16 in state psychiatric hospitals, so I appreciated the descriptions of sociopathy vs psychopathy, and how these "situations" interplay with "The Beast". To me, the Beast's breath is the feel of non-integration - of energy not open to the rest of energy, but locked into action on its own, like some anerobic sprint which pumps an ultimately unsustainable amount of lactic acid into the muscles and minds of human beings, soon to be less and less. Almost all of the tragic character flaws in your piece could be seen in terms of the "short run". Interesting how sustability may be a worthy opponent to the Beast, and how going long also goes wide (ecological consciousness, including the ecology of human collectives, interdependent social paradigms). Long goes wide, because wide is required in order to achieve long. Yet this long view, and the wide view, is not what the sociopath or the psychopath or the everyday politician, or the everyday consumer, has. May we learn from your tragic characters and from the many enablers, which probably includes me and you, as we unwittingly feed The Beast. Darrell Dear Steven, I enjoyed the piece. Excellent writing. I worked in prison for the last 13 or 14 years of my state employment (now retired), and worked 15 or 16 in state psychiatric hospitals, so I appreciated the descriptions of sociopathy vs psychopathy, and how these “situations” interplay with “The Beast”. To me, the Beast’s breath is the feel of non-integration – of energy not open to the rest of energy, but locked into action on its own, like some anerobic sprint which pumps an ultimately unsustainable amount of lactic acid into the muscles and minds of human beings, soon to be less and less. Almost all of the tragic character flaws in your piece could be seen in terms of the “short run”. Interesting how sustability may be a worthy opponent to the Beast, and how going long also goes wide (ecological consciousness, including the ecology of human collectives, interdependent social paradigms). Long goes wide, because wide is required in order to achieve long. Yet this long view, and the wide view, is not what the sociopath or the psychopath or the everyday politician, or the everyday consumer, has. May we learn from your tragic characters and from the many enablers, which probably includes me and you, as we unwittingly feed The Beast.
Darrell

]]> Comment on Integral Dissipation by Mark DuBois http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/integral-dissipation/#comment-68 Mark DuBois Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:44:34 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/integral-dissipation/#comment-68 Hi Steven, Great article! Particularly loved your closing 3 paragraphs. All the best, Mark P.S. E=mc^2 is my favorite formula. "...whenever mass disappears energy is created..." Hi Steven,

Great article! Particularly loved your closing 3 paragraphs.

All the best,
Mark

P.S. E=mc^2 is my favorite formula.

“…whenever mass disappears energy is created…”

]]> Comment on What it is by Mark DuBois http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/about/#comment-67 Mark DuBois Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:22:53 +0000 #comment-67 is play… is the view below the title across the quebradas from this window above this desk… is the ragged front edge… Indeed. is play…

is the view below the title across the quebradas from this window above this desk…

is the ragged front edge…

Indeed.

]]> Comment on No Reason to Believe by Marianthi http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/no-reason-to-believe/#comment-64 Marianthi Sat, 16 May 2009 22:17:27 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/no-reason-to-believe/#comment-64 I´ve been swimming round images of ´fullness of instinct´ for a whole year now, dear wise one, before I could add my comments to the richness of yours. Thank you for them. In those waters came bobbing up two of my favorite characters: Diogenes and Hari. The first one, the real man who lived and became the most famous of cynics of Ancient Greece, rejected all proper norms and requirements of his society, lived as an ascetic, made fun of Plato (to his face and to his students), masturbated in public with the comment that he wished his stomach could be as easily satisfied as his penis and insisted that what was good enough for a dog´s comfort was good enough for a human. Kynion, old Greek word for dog made him and those who espoused his thought into kyniki : dog-like, from which English somehow derived the word cynics, the dog-like ones, who needed little beyond satisfying the bare cravings of instinct and could laugh at those who needed more. The second one is called Hari. She´s the protagonist of a book yet to be written, a wise old lady, lover of Diogenes, who pulls the ground from under his feet as passionately and often as she can. She´s groundless and invites him there. She visits him draped in silk garments and tries to anoint him with perfumed oils. Stuck in his rejection of comfort he rejects them. She laughs, he frowns. Next visit she wears rags, eats dirty raw onions with him (his favorite diet) and spits the tough stems out. She stinks, he stinks. She rejects him. He pines, but stays stuck to his show-off onion diet. Then she comes to him as the temple scholar, in simple linen, embracing scrolls full of quotes. She reads them to him for hours. He yawns, she demands mental alertness from one who says he´s better than those who need comforts. He falls asleep. Sternly she asks him why on earth he sat like an old dog, listening till he slept. He can´t figure her out. Loves and hates her. Her shifts, her freedom to contradict herself and catch him out at his rigidity are ultimately so entertaining. She´s more like an aeluros, a cat, in ancient Greek. Flexible, not set in her ways, responding to the moment, to the instinct of what seems right for the time even if it completely contradicts yesterday. She awakens and bends Diogenes out of his posturing. The aeluroics begin with her. I know you know her. I´ve been swimming round images of ´fullness of instinct´ for a whole year now, dear wise one, before I could add my comments to the richness of yours. Thank you for them. In those waters came bobbing up two of my favorite characters: Diogenes and Hari.
The first one, the real man who lived and became the most famous of cynics of Ancient Greece, rejected all proper norms and requirements of his society, lived as an ascetic, made fun of Plato (to his face and to his students), masturbated in public with the comment that he wished his stomach could be as easily satisfied as his penis and insisted that what was good enough for a dog´s comfort was good enough for a human. Kynion, old Greek word for dog made him and those who espoused his thought into kyniki : dog-like, from which English somehow derived the word cynics, the dog-like ones, who needed little beyond satisfying the bare cravings of instinct and could laugh at those who needed more.
The second one is called Hari. She´s the protagonist of a book yet to be written, a wise old lady, lover of Diogenes, who pulls the ground from under his feet as passionately and often as she can. She´s groundless and invites him there. She visits him draped in silk garments and tries to anoint him with perfumed oils. Stuck in his rejection of comfort he rejects them. She laughs, he frowns. Next visit she wears rags, eats dirty raw onions with him (his favorite diet) and spits the tough stems out. She stinks, he stinks. She rejects him. He pines, but stays stuck to his show-off onion diet. Then she comes to him as the temple scholar, in simple linen, embracing scrolls full of quotes. She reads them to him for hours. He yawns, she demands mental alertness from one who says he´s better than those who need comforts. He falls asleep. Sternly she asks him why on earth he sat like an old dog, listening till he slept. He can´t figure her out. Loves and hates her. Her shifts, her freedom to contradict herself and catch him out at his rigidity are ultimately so entertaining. She´s more like an aeluros, a cat, in ancient Greek. Flexible, not set in her ways, responding to the moment, to the instinct of what seems right for the time even if it completely contradicts yesterday. She awakens and bends Diogenes out of his posturing. The aeluroics begin with her.

I know you know her.

]]> Comment on Integral Province: Sensualist move on… by POLYSEMY Online: The Daily Goose http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/integral-province-sensualist-move-on/#comment-63 POLYSEMY Online: The Daily Goose Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:16:22 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/integral-province-sensualist-move-on/#comment-63 [...] the Integral Liberties blog: I click on a couple of album covers on the “music” page of Matthew Dallman’s site to see [...] [...] the Integral Liberties blog: I click on a couple of album covers on the “music” page of Matthew Dallman’s site to see [...]

]]> Comment on Integral Dissipation by Werewolves http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/integral-dissipation/#comment-61 Werewolves Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:28:05 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/integral-dissipation/#comment-61 Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit. cheers, Werewolves! Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway … nice blog to visit.

cheers, Werewolves!

]]> Comment on Relating to Aurobindo: An Essay once called Killing the Beast by jim cook http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-60 jim cook Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:48:16 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-60 still a great piece! one thing you don't have in common with Aurobindo is that you don't have any wasted words, each one is integral to the narrative. always a pleasure to read. still a great piece! one thing you don’t have in common with Aurobindo is that you don’t have any wasted words, each one is integral to the narrative. always a pleasure to read.

]]> Comment on Relating to Aurobindo: An Essay once called Killing the Beast by Tim Ramsey http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-56 Tim Ramsey Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:55:45 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/relating-to-aurobindo-an-essay-once-called-killing-the-beast/#comment-56 I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. Tim Ramsey I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog.

Tim Ramsey

]]> Comment on No Reason to Believe by Kerry http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/no-reason-to-believe/#comment-52 Kerry Wed, 28 May 2008 02:57:40 +0000 http://derechosalvaje.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/no-reason-to-believe/#comment-52 Steven, Even from my 'mid-life' vantage I can notice that instinct and longevity, or is that qualitative longevity, go together or not at all. I recall, earlier, a belief that instinct was all only inherited and that it never evolved with any input of my own. So, to read that you too, you two, notice an education of instinct, that it gets informed, that its a tool that keeps making itself, is most welcomed. In youth anyone could be dining with loud fascinating friends and injest a piece of ham, maybe hidden in salad, that a dog (maybe an old dog?) would sniff once and turn away from. Why? Instinct is asleep in the din of preoccupation, muffled by the pillows of self conscious intrigue. May we all loose count of our lives, K Steven,
Even from my ‘mid-life’ vantage I can notice that instinct and longevity, or is that qualitative longevity, go together or not at all. I recall, earlier, a belief that instinct was all only inherited and that it never evolved with any input of my own. So, to read that you too, you two, notice an education of instinct, that it gets informed, that its a tool that keeps making itself, is most welcomed.
In youth anyone could be dining with loud fascinating friends and injest a piece of ham, maybe hidden in salad, that a dog (maybe an old dog?) would sniff once and turn away from. Why? Instinct is asleep in the din of preoccupation, muffled by the pillows of self conscious intrigue.

May we all loose count of our lives,

K

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